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Christianity is not about the support for Israel, the Jews

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(Mat 23:37 KJV) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
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It should be of note, interest to all Bible students, that the Christian Church, the bride of Christ, the final Jewish seed, was not mentioned directly in the old Testament but only in the new Testament.  The big difference between Christianity and Judaism https://lifebyjesus.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/the-big-difference-between-christianity-and-judaism/
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All persons thus, Arab, Jewish, gentile can   go to heaven to be with God, can be saved from their sins thus too, by Jesus Christ alone.
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 SO BY LAW IF NOT BY BIRTH JESUS WAS JEWISH  BUT JESUS AND THE APOSTLES NEXT GAVE UP THEIR JEWISH RELIGION AND STARTED A NEW ONE.. IT IS CALLED CHRISTIANITY and Christianity is not reformed Judaism..  HAD ONE  READ THE NEW TESTAMENT THEY  WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT TOO.
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YOU ARE NOW A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN AND BUT NOT BOTH FOR BEING JEWISH MEANS FOLLOWING THE JEWISH RELIGION SOLELY AND NOT THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION.
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Jewish believers in Yeshua? but there is No such thing.. as Jewish believers in Yeshua as there are only Believers in Jesus Christ.. If someone born to a Jewish mother who embraces Jesus and practices Christianity, then that person is NOT now a ‘Jew for Jesus’. They now are either a New Testament Christian, or a Old testament Jew.. The ‘messianic Jews’ now are just another sect within Judaism. They are not CHRISTIAN. Messianic Jews also undeniably  tend to tell half truths, they do falsely and too often now take New testament verses out of Context, falsely do promote a non Christian Gospel as they basically are still AntiChrists … Sad..
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Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
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 Do they even firstly understand that Christianity teaches that Judaism is the ‘old’ covenant which Christianity has replaced? and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well also they are supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior . Read the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the spirit of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the New testament Bible’s as well. 2 Tim 3:5 KJV Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
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Matthew 7: 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
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Jesus Christ is still the only means of personal salvation for both the Jews and gentiles.. no one else can save you from hell..
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The Old Testament laws given by God through Moses  were undeniably temporary laws given only for the Jews. they were replaced, superceded by the New testament laws..  Here also is what the false Christians, the Jewish ones generally will not tell you even.. How did the Jews live for thousands of years before the Mosiac laws came into being? And how are they really to live after Jesus died too…
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(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. .
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 (1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;.
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2 Tim 4:3-4 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, AND shall be turned unto fables.
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Was what Jesus did for us in the cross shedding his blood, dying for us all was it Enough? God said it was finished Or, did God Lie to us?
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 Are all real NEW Testament Christians Under Any Part of the Old Law?
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 Do we Know, follow the LORD Jesus Christ or the falsely the Old testament Jewish Law?
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Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
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Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. .
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Luke 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! .
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I Corinthians 11:31-32 that we judge ourselves first so that we will not be judged
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 1 Cor 5:11 KJV) But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
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1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.
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2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
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Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
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2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
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 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work.” (II Timothy 2:21)
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True Christians do not mix the Old and New Covenants “laws”, laws as defined by the New testament, nor do they rightfully now support any of the Judaizers and their “laws”, all those persons who want to keep the Torah “laws” and just add Jesus to it. Today the entire Old Covenant “laws” was to be casted out by the Christian but we must all still follow His new teachings that are valid in the New Covenant as per (Galatians 4:21-31). The New Covenant teachings of Jesus did not include Sabbath-keeping “laws”and many other “laws”of the now obsolete Torah. True Christians believe that the “laws” has been completely abrogated and replaced with the Law of Christ.; Messianic Jews and the Seventh day Adventists, Judaizers do still try to uphold invalid laws, part of the Bible falsely do draw people away from the truth of Christ.
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It still seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well.. This is a Jewish lie, hoax.. Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still my right for all even for non Jewish persons too.
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It is undeniable that whether accidental or deliberate there is a significant attempt to mislead people from Jesus Christ’s sole way of Salvation from Hell to heaven by many persons or groups.. Including Judiazers, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons too….. Satan and his many followers falsely do still works feverishly to draw attention away from his arch enemy, the Head of His true body, Jesus Christ. They falsely deny the new testament and Jesus Christ finished work.. “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.” Romans 1:25  “The spirit of antichrist” is behind this false teaching of making an idol out of any mere day. Anti means in place of.. Anti-christ means “in place of Christ.” (1 John 4:1-6)
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There are many rather still fools, even ignorant Christians who think that they can merely obtain God’s favor by keeping any of the laws of the Old Testament.. these deceived persons all fail to realize that the Old Testament were written to the Jews only, not to any gentiles.. Now today all of these over 465 old testament inapplicable laws are redundant, obsolete even to all of the Jews.. Further more keeping any of these Mosaic  laws does not insure any personal entrance into heaven..
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Can you be a practicing Jew and also believe that Jesus is the messiah? The customary answer is no. Though Christianity began in Jerusalem , all Christians came to understand themselves as people who by definition were not Jewish and who believed that Christianity had “superseded” Judaism — that is, “taken its seat” of favor before God. While the early church was made up of both Jews and gentiles who professed faith in Jesus as Messiah and Lord the early church was anti-Jewish. To accept Jews into the church as Jews who follow the Torah’s instructions for observant Jewish life even as they live in fellowship with Christian Jesus-believing gentiles, would represent a false unacceptable return to Judaism.. Christianity and rabbinic Judaism next emerged as rival claimants to continuity with Israel after the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 AD.. In the case of Messianic Jews, their failure to leave their ongoing Jewishness is what damns them to hell. Now get that into you head.. Within the early church there was an ongoing conflict between two groups who both claimed to be followers of Jesus Christ. One group held to the teachings of Jesus as taught by the apostles regarding salvation in Christ alone. The other group also held to the teachings of Jesus but added certain Jewish religious practices, particularly circumcision. As the New American Commentary explains, “… the Apostle Paul himself had waged a steady campaign against a group of false teachers, commonly known as Judiazers, who had sown great confusion among the apostle’s recent converts by teaching that becoming Jewish was necessary for salvation.”
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Old Israel supposedly being  God’s people for they still will go to hell LIKE MANY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WILL if they personally reject Christ and do not continue to follow after him. (Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
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 We are not under the Old Testament laws but under those laws solely in the new testament… the law of the spirit..(Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
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Some clerics, theologians, and scholars have worked hard to recover the supposedly historical Jewish Jesus. why? as the only main portion of the Bible that you really need to read, to follow now is the New Testament because we are no longer under Old Testament covenant, law – essentially the New Testament replaces the basic requirements of the Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament. also the Mosaic Laws were given only for the once chosen Jews..  As nobody today can follow both religions; for they are mutually exclusive. All Believers should still embrace the whole Word of God that is written by God but now they do not follow the non applicable Old Testament laws, rituals. The Old Testament has now been superseded by the New Testament. The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus.  Jews, Judiazers, even the false Christians themselves who want it seems to promote their own self importance, the false value of the now rather false, obsolete old Judaic religion, old testament dominance and it’s also still the false observation of the Old testament letter of the law over the New Testament spirit of the law approach. It is an ungodly act still too. … we need only to follow the law of the spirit.. (Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus.
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AND  AS FAR AS JESUS FULFILLING THE OLD TESTAMENT DO PEOPLE NOW EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS NOW? 
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Jesus was the only man to ever perfectly keep the law. He did this then died on the cross to do away completely with the law as the means for righteousness, “Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and TOOK IT OUT OF THE WAY (gone forever), NAILING IT TO THE CROSS;” Colossians 2:14 Matthew 5:17 – Greek word for “fulfilled” means EXPIRED – which means to DO AWAY WITH!  Jesus Christ, Yeshua has come and put and “END” to the OLD Testament religious approach, law for our righteousness. Jesus Christ the only Messiah too has already come and fulfilled the law’s requirements by his sinless death, the most important event   being that He bled on that cross as “the Lamb of God” as a sacrifice for the sins of all of mankind (John 1:29). This now also  included nailing the old testament laws to the cross.  Now if you are still focusing on the mere shadows of the messiah given to the Jews under the OLD testament, and you are living under the old and obsolete covenant which was far inferior to the NEW Testament which Jesus had introduced, accomplished and which is a far superior and a much “BETTER covenant” and made the old covenant obsolete (Hebrews 8:6) you are in great error and still going to hell undeniably now too. “For Christ is THE END of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” Romans 10:4
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 What Jesus Christ did when He died on that cross for the sins of all men?
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“Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.” Colossians 2:14-19 So NOW you who are only “complete in Christ” (v10) even to not allow any foul, law-keep religious devil to judge or condemn you for not keeping an inferior, obsolete Jewish law that was done away with and nailed to the cross. face that truth, reality or you will go to hell next instead. Jesus is the only way of Salvation, forgiveness for your sins, his finished work on the cross is the only way..
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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 When Jesus was referring to “the law” in those verses, He was not referring to the law of MOSES. In fact, Jesus and the apostles differentiate between the law of God and the law of Moses in many places, this is a key point. Jesus proves that He is not talking about the law of Moses in some of the very next verses where He lists the commandments now, and even updates a few, making them stricter…..He says “anyone who breaks the least of THESE commandments shall be least in the kingdom.” What commandments? He didn’t name any yet, BUT HE WAS ABOUT TO. Remember, according to Hebrews 7 that there was a changing of the priesthood, therefore a changing of the law.
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 Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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 Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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 Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
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 Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
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 Further proof that the law of God/Christ is different from the law of Moses is in…
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John 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you NOT that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the TRUE bread from heaven..
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 Mat 19:7-8 and Mark 10:4-5 Jesus is asked about divorce and His answer is that MOSES gave them that precept because of the hardness of their hearts, and that it was not so from the beginning. Proving again that the law has changed more than once. Jesus then forbade it except in adultery.
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 John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.
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 John 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
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 Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could NOT be justified by the law of Moses.
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All Jewish and non Jewish persons have to keep only these laws – to be filled with the Holy Spirit and to obey the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ The old system under the law of Moses was only a shadow, a dim preview of the good things to come, not the good things themselves. Hebrews 10:1
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The apostle Paul certifies that “the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good” (Romans 7:12), we also do still know as per Romans 7: “1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
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 How much more clearer can it be , we are adulterers if we serve the law, since we are dead to the law once we have been married to Jesus Christ.. He Jesus Christ had fulfill the law as Moses had written it. Once He died and rose again He ratified what was needed to be kept under the law of Christ, the laws of the Holy Spirit (not Moses). This law was either given directly by Jesus or through the apostles after the resurrection where they all were filled with the Holy Spirit in the Book of Acts. Pentecost is not an option but mandatory for all Christians.
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 Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. To have it put aside. We are under the new law of Christ and NOT under the law of Moses. Some of the Old Testament laws are ratified in the new covenant and most are not. Jesus himself had removed the requirement of having to follow the Law in order to please God, he even had established justification by faith, and thereby united both Jew and Gentile into one group in Christ. This is when Paul says in verse 15 that he abolished in his flesh the enmity which is the law of commandments in ordinances. The Law was that which separated Jew from Gentile and since it has been fulfilled in Christ, it is no longer something that would separate Jew and Gentile. Both Jews and Gentiles can be one, Christians the Church now instead. The word “fulfill” which many abuse, it does not mean to continue or reinforce.
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 Matthew consistently used the word fulfill in a specific manner, once something is fulfilled there is not a need for any future fulfillment. Now fulfilled all mean a completion of something that is said. That something was prophesied or written and he fulfilled it or made it happen, bringing it to its end, having it come to pass, no longer applicable commandments, all he old testament laws.. 613 of them now too.. As we can see, these 613 commands were temporary and only for a certain time and next many of the Old Testament laws are given new meaning in the New Testament. Whatever came through the cross and taught by the apostles were the new applicable teachings for the Church. Jesus did not tell the disciples not to sacrifice animals during this time they were still under the law before his resurrection. Its obvious after he died the Temple veil was rent and his sacrifice was made once for all, they no longer had to do continue this approach.
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 Mt.28 states to observe all things that I have commanded you it means and include also what he spoke to the disciples after His resurrection, as preached by the Apostles too now.. “The Old Testament Covenant was never intended to be permanent. (Gal.3:17-18, 22-25) Jesus used two examples in a parable to show the new is not to be joined with the old, (Luke 5:36-39) V.36 “No one puts a piece from a new garment on an old one; otherwise the new makes a tear, and also the piece that was taken out of the new does not match the old.”Heb.8:13 “In that He says “a New Covenant,” He has made the first one obsolete…”.
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Paul describes the Mosaic covenant in 2 Cor.3: 7 the HOLY SPIRIT tells us, is “passing away” and is “abolished” (verses 11,13), in its place we have the “ministry of the Spirit” and “the ministry of righteousness” (verses 8,9).” For “the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” You are trying to earn favor with God by observing certain days or months or seasons or years. I fear for you. Perhaps all my hard work with you was for nothing. Dear brothers and sisters, I plead with you to live as I do in freedom from these things, for I have become like you Gentiles—free from those laws. Galatians 4:10-12 So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.
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 For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality. Colossians 2:16-17
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Today the church is the true Israel and Christians are God’s true “Jews” today. Jesus taught that God would take his blessings away from fleshly Israel who rejected him as Christ and give it to the Gentiles. Jesus and the Apostles clearly taught the Gentile believers would replace Jewish non-believers.
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Luke 23:34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” And they divided His garments and cast lots.
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 SO IF JESUS PRAYED AND ASK FORGIVENESS AND GOD FORGAVE THE BETRAYERS AND MURDERERS OF JESUS WHY DID GOD DESTROY JERUSALEM AND IT’S TEMPLE? because he was establishing a new religion and cancelling the old one..
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IT IS ALSO UNDENIABLE THAT JEWS, MESSIANIC JEWS  AND CHRISTIANS HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON WHO AND WHAT JESUS THE CHRIST WAS, IS TO BE..
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 (Mat 23:37 KJV) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.;  
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(Rom 10:1 KJV) Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
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The problem even with the Messianic Jews and most JEWS is that they are color blind..  those same Jews who are no longer God’s chosen people, they can only see things through a Jewish perspective.. not the reality.. Christians have replaced the Jews now as God’s chosen ones..  (Eph 1:4 KJV) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
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Messianic Jews are thus  the false antichrist still.. It should be of note, interest to all Bible students, that the Christian Church, the bride of Christ, the final Jewish seed, was not mentioned directly in the old Testament but only in the new Testament. In the New testament the Jews are no longer the Chosen ones too, the Christians are.
MESSIANIC FAITH IS STILL A BIG RIP OFF.. IT IS A JEWISH ANTICHRIST WORSHIP, IT IS A RELGION STILL OF PERSONAL GOOD WORKS, NOT BASED ON A REAL FAITH IN THE REAL JESUS CHRIST.
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 Messianic Jews are really still lost persons going to hell. Messianic Jews have a completely different interpretation of the Kingdom of God, of Jesus Christ still.. they falsely see Jesus coming back to establish the kingdom of the Jews and not the kingdom of Heaven..   Messianic Jews do falsely want us all to believe that Jesus remains firmly connected to unsaved Jewish people . and that Jerusalem is still “that great city “ , but he has temporarily forsaken them because they forsook him . The Same attempt is made on when these deceivers say that Jewish people are still God’s chosen people . But an unbelieving Jew will go to the same hell that an unbelieving Gentile will go to . if you are a Christian, do you believe that the Jews go to Hell? the Christian answer will be “yes, anyone who doesn’t accept Jesus as their saviour goes to hell.” I think the more interesting question is, when did most of Jews stop worshipping God? Before or after Jesus was born?
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Christianity is not about the support for Israel, the Jews  RATHER IT IS ABOUT SERVING GOD THE  LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND BEING IN HEAVEN WITH HIM
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Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. Jews will always be far from any right to the the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS, even the blood shed of many others that they have killed from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone! The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.
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Christians and the current non-Christian Jews also do worship different gods , The Jews do not, did not truly honor Christ as the promised Messiah , but are looking for another that will come in his own name . The Talmud itself speaks of absolute mockery and hatred for Christ and Christians.
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Proverbs 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
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 Proverbs 27: 5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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 Revelation 3: 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do also teach   that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the whole New Testament Bible even still.
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.Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century.
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It is unbelievable, undeniable that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included..
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It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no God given promise of their return.
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There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too. after their second dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even for the Jewish return in 1948.. Do try prove me wrong..
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THE JEWS ARE NO LONGER GOD’S CHOSEN ONES.. THE LOST THAT STATUS WHEN THEY OPENLY HAD REJECTED JESUS CHRIST THE MESSIAH. TO BE MORE ACCURATE THE TERM CHOSEN ONE REFERS TO THE CHRISTIANS ONLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NOW AND NOT TO THE JEWS.
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 NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO ALWAYS STILL FIRSTLY BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES SOLELY ON THE NEW TESTAMENT, EVEN THE SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON SOLELY ON ANY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES..
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 BY THE WAY THERE ALSO IS NO NEW TESTAMENT REFERENCE, THAT SUBSTANTIATED THE 3RD JEWISH RETURN TO THE HOLY LAND, THE PROMISE LAND.
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What you also do  need to know about the Nation Of Israel today… Jews and Arabs have common ancestry. Both trace back to the Biblical family leader Abraham. Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. Isaac also had two sons, Esau and Jacob Jews today live in nearly every nation on earth as a result of the Babylonian captivity and the Roman expulsion.
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And we all should not show false partiality to the Jews, even now wrongfully overlook all of the Jews wrong doings, even the fact that the Jews have been killing Christians even in Lebanon, no partiality even because once in the past they the Jews were God’s chosen people.
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 Today’s Jews and many others now are too quick to associate with the Promised Land of Joshua’s time. However, as per the conditions of the Bible , the New Testament and even the establishment of the State of Israel by the United Nations in 1948 it now raises many valid questions about that relationship validity. ” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. Now what right can Israel today use to claim again their God promised land when they have as in time pasts also openly, undeniably rejected God, even Jesus Christ as their their God, Messiah, King, Savior, Healer, Lord, and the same Jesus who clearly predicted the expulsion of the Jews from Israel under the Romans next did not spell out the date of their return.
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Less any one gets lost, there are Good Jews, Good Arabs, good Americans, good Canadians and bad ones too. But is seems both Jews and Arabs are equally guilty of hate, unforgiveness, revenge, theft, murder, an eye for an eye approach so we can really not support either side as being mainly in the right
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How you get there is as important as where you are going. For all of Today’s Jews included. Ask also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
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(Prov 31:8 KJV) “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction. 9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.
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Now for many decades I too have studied the Bible and the prophetic scriptures, dispensational views related to Israel too.. The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone!
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Don’t also falsely ask me to take sides in the Jewish Arab Conflict cause neither side is in the right firstly these days too.I do also believe that God divinely still looks after Israel and protects it, but this is never a justification of any of Israel’s past or present acts.. Too bad still that both the Jews and Arabs deliberately, equally do refuse to live in peace! And any one who looks at the subject of prophecy, a real genuine Bible student knows that too many Jews ,who can only use the old testament, and there is almost no new testament substantiation for it, still the Jews, and many others have wrongfully now Distorted Biblical Prophecy Interpretation after the time of Jesus Christ to suit their false Jewish’s ends, a Jewish purpose, for they like Judas they betray Jesus Christ by these acts for Jesus next made it clear the second Jewish Kingdom of God was not in this world.. (John 18:36 KJV) Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. And the false Jewish supporters can solely refer to the Old Testament verses now such as Jeremiah Chapter 31, Joel 3:2, Amos 9:15 and Psalm 83: for they undeniably have no New Testament substantiations, support for Israel’s return or possession now of the past promised land.
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And as we all do know the main temple in Jerusalem was fully destroyed to the ground in 70 AD by the Romans, as well as all of the temple records there in, so no one any longer can validate his Jewish ancestry or birth rights even.
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I too do rightfully like to check everything with the New Testament too
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In Love I am willing to talk to them about these issues now too..
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*Jews, Israel for a start falsely, to try to get the support of others, even like to use the term anti Semite often, as a false diversion even for a start, as they here supposedly want to say that they alone are not the objects of the hate, racial attack but so are the others.. Although the term anti-Semitism has wide currency, it is regarded as a misnomer, falsely now implying discrimination against all Semites, including all Arabs and other peoples, who now firstly are not the clear targets of anti-Semitism today as it is usually the fact. It is not the past Jewish culture being attacked now too, but rather their presently specific now bad personal acts, poor values associated with Israel, especially when they the Jews too often and falsely, undeniably too now, the chosen ones, tend to think they are now really superior to all other nations too and they can do what they want, for they can do no wrong. Rather this is not so in reality, they the Jews too can be held accountable for their too often now bad acts as well… even against the Palestinians.
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Still do you have one, one New Testament verse that confirms Israel’s present return and possession of the Promised land. I am not aware of one, If you do which one is it? Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND
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And there is absolutely not one New Testament verse, justification for “Zionism”, the Jews returning to their ancient homeland, the Zionist movement that eventually resulted in the re-establishment of a nation of Israel in 1948. Neither Jesus or any of the Apostles of Jesus had ever promised, or discussed, confirmed the re- establishment of the Nation of Israel. There will be no peace In Israel until the Prince of Peace is accepted by the Jews.. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take..
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Jesus not only predicted the dispersion of the Jews world wide by the Romans, he caused it himself. (Mat 21:19 KJV) And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. (Rom 10:12 KJV) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Now the Jews are to live peacefully wherever they have been dispersed.. sadly they do not too.
God has promised to restore His Jewish people to Israel – Jer 29:14 and this promised has been fulfilled after the Babylonian exile and return now too. and why were the Jews dispelled from Israel the second Time? Because also due their false hope of having a Jewish state separate of Jesus Christ. Now some are still falsely teaching that God’s alleged favor toward Israel today is based upon ethnic descent rather than upon the grace of Christ alone, as proclaimed in the Gospel. Second, others are teaching that the Bible’s promises concerning the land are fulfilled in a special political region or “Holy Land,” perpetually set apart by God for one ethnic group alone. Jesus was the Lamb of God taking away the sin of the world, of Jew and of Gentile alike. The death of Jesus forever fulfilled and eternally ended the sacrifices of the Jewish temple.
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All who would worship God, whether Jew or Gentile, must now come to him in spirit and truth through Jesus Christ alone. The worship of God is no longer identified with any specific earthly sanctuary. He receives worship only through Jesus Christ, the eternal and heavenly Temple.To as many as receive and rest upon Christ alone through faith alone, to Jews and Gentiles alike, God gives eternal life in his heavenly inheritance. The present secular state of Israel, however, is not even an authentic or prophetic realization of the Messianic kingdom of Jesus Christ.
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 Furthermore, a day should not be anticipated in which Christ’s kingdom will manifest Jewish distinctives, whether by its location in “the land,” by its constituency, or by its ceremonial institutions and practices. Instead, this present age will come to a climactic conclusion with the arrival of the final, eternal phase of the kingdom of the Messiah. At that time, all eyes, even of those who pierced him, will see the King in his glory. Every knee will bow, and every tongue will declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign forever and ever. Are we not also as Christians today not called to pray for and work for peace, warning both parties Jews and Arabs to this conflict that those who live by the sword will die by the sword? Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can bring both temporal reconciliation and the hope of an eternal and heavenly inheritance to the Israeli and the Palestinian. Only through Jesus Christ can anyone know peace on earth.
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There are numerous passages in the NT where OT prophecies concerning Israel’s regathering and restoration are applied to the Church, indicating that the latter is the “true Israel” comprised of both believing Jews and believing Gentiles in whom the promises will be fulfilled. Or, to put it in other terms, the Church does not replace Israel but takes up and perpetuates in itself the believing remnant within the nation as a whole.
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The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches
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Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.
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Simon Peter spoke of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus in conjunction with the final judgment and the punishment of sinners. Instructively, this same Simon Peter, the Apostle to the Circumcision, says nothing about the restoration of the kingdom to Israel in the land of Palestine. Instead, as his readers contemplate the promise of Jesus’ Second Coming, he fixes their hope upon the new heavens and the new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
Even all Jews and Zionists would do well to learn from the Biblical account of even the Apostle Judas.” When morning came, he called HIS DISCIPLES to him and chose twelve of them whom he also designated apostles: Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor” (Lk. 6:13-16). Once he was one of the Apostles but next you can tell what he really was by what he did, by his own fruits, theft and betrayals included.. ” Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.” Psa 41:9 All four gospels identify Judas as the betrayer. The same Judas Iscariot also had left everything to follow the Lord. In modern terminology, he had ‘accepted’ Jesus as Lord Judas is a prime example of a ONCE CHOSEN believer who fell into absolute apostasy. For three years he followed the Lord with the other disciples BUT HE NEXT BECAME A TRAITOR, turning against Jesus Christ the Messiah, Judas quietly became a vile, tool of Satan WITH his heart gradually hardened became the false, treacherous man who had even sold the Savior even for a fistful of coins. He served as crooked treasurer for Jesus and the Apostles, which meant he carried the money bag. and abused it. John tells us that he was also dishonest and that he often stole money out of the bag whenever he wanted it. he objected so strongly to Mary (sister of Martha and Lazarus) pouring expensive perfume (nard) on Jesus’ feet. He said they should have sold the nard and used the money to help the poor. But what he really wanted was more money in the treasury so he could steal it. (John. 12:1-6); Judas clearly unlike the other apostles did not give up his Jewish heritage but falsely tried to hang on to it.; He made the mistake that falsely looked towards a revived Jewish empire on earth. Judas next committed suicide even and he was next replaced as an Apostle of Jesus Christ.
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Often we hear Zionists claim to the promised land if Israel today and supposedly justified from the Bible, based on isolated verses or those in the Old Testament, not many from the New Testament for sure.. Any honest persons reading the Bible should admit that it was not the gentiles, But God himself had on two occasions in history now removed the Jews from the land of Israel, and like most of the other nations of world Israel now too Israel itself is not perfect and does not fully follow after God as it firstly has been commanded to do so too. They also should read their own Bible as to the reasons they were dispelled the first time..
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Jer 34:8 [This is] the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord after King Zedekiah had made a covenant with all the people who were at Jerusalem to proclaim liberty to them:
 Jer 34:9 Every man should let his Hebrew slaves, male and female, go free, so that no one should make a slave of a Jew, his brother.
 Jer 34:10 And all the princes and all the people obeyed, who had entered into the covenant that everyone would let his manservant and his maidservant go free, so that none should make bondmen of them any more; they obeyed, and let them go.
 Jer 34:11 But afterward they turned around and caused the servants and the handmaids whom they had let go free to return [to their former masters] and brought them into subjection for servants and for handmaids.
Jer 34:12 Therefore the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
 Jer 34:13 Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: I made a covenant with your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage, saying,
Jer 34:14 At the end of seven years you shall let every man his brother who is a Hebrew go free who has sold himself {or} has been sold to you and has served you six years; but your fathers did not listen to {and} obey Me or incline their ear [submitting and consenting to Me].
Jer 34:15 And you recently turned around {and} repented, doing what was right in My sight by proclaiming liberty each one to his neighbor [who was his bond servant]; and you made a covenant {or} pledge before Me in the house which is called by My Name.
Jer 34:16 But then you turned around and defiled My name; each of you caused to return to you your servants, male and female, whom you had set free as they might desire; and you brought them into subjection again to be your slaves.
Jer 34:17 Therefore thus says the Lord: You have not listened to Me {and} obeyed Me in proclaiming liberty each one to his brother and neighbor. Behold, I proclaim to you liberty–to the sword, to pestilence, and to famine, says the Lord; and I will make you to be tossed to and fro {and} to be a horror among all the kingdoms of the earth!
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The entitlement of any one ethnic or religious group to territory in the Middle East called the “Holy Land” cannot be supported by the new testament or Old Tesatment Scriptures. In fact, the land promises specific to Israel in the Old Testament were fulfilled under Joshua. The New Testament speaks clearly and prophetically about the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. No New Testament writer foresees a regathering of ethnic Israel in the land, as did the prophets of the Old Testament after the destruction of the first temple in 586 B.C. Moreover, the land promises of the Old Covenant are consistently and deliberately expanded in the New Testament to show the universal dominion of Jesus, who reigns from heaven upon the throne of David, inviting all the nations through the Gospel of Grace to partake of his universal and everlasting dominion.
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Now the New Testament furthermore provides us all with an expanded definition of what constitutes an “Israelite” or a “Jew”. Or perhaps we might say that the NT provides us with a “Christified” perspective on the people of God. Ethnicity is no longer the primary concern. Having Abraham’s blood in one’s veins is not the primary consideration, but rather having Abraham’s faith in one’s heart. Jesus is the true “seed” of Abraham to whom the promise was given. But if anyone is “in Christ” by faith, he or she is the “seed” of Abraham and thus an heir according to the promise.
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Revelation 3:9 is especially instructive. Here Jesus promises the Church in Philadelphia that he “will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie – behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you.” There are two important points to make.First, he refers to people who “say they are Jews and are not, but lie” (for an almost identical statement, see Rev. 2:9). Clearly, in one sense, these people are Jews, the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who met regularly in the synagogue to worship. Yet, in another sense, i.e., inwardly and spiritually, they are not Jews, having rejected Jesus and now persecuted and slandered his people. Indeed, their gatherings at synagogue are energized by Satan himself.
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But if they are false Jews, who, then, are the true Jews? If they are a synagogue of Satan, who, then, constitutes a synagogue of God? John does not provide an explicit answer, but the implication seems clear. Ladd explains: “true Jews are the people of the Messiah.
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Apostle Paul says the same thing very clearly: ‘For he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly, nor is true circumcision something external and physical. He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal’ (Rom. 2:28-29). That this ‘Judaism of the heart’ is not to be limited to believing Jews but includes believing gentiles is clear from Paul’s words to the Philippians: ‘For we are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit, and glory in Christ Jesus’ (Phil. 3:3). We must conclude, then, that John makes a real distinction between literal Israel – the Jews – and spiritual Israel – the church” (43-44).
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Revelation 7:15 speaks of the saints in God’s heavenly “temple” and of God “spreading his tabernacle over them.” This is a clear allusion to Ezek. 37:26-28, a passage that in its OT context is a prophecy of Israel’s restoration. There God says, “I will establish my sanctuary in the midst of them forever. And my tabernacle will be over them . . . when my sanctuary is in the midst of them forever.“ God will wipe away every tear from their eyes” (Isa. 25:8; Rev. 7:17).
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Sadly the spin doctors in Israel, Jewish supporters are hard at work justifying all of their actions, the good and the bad ones. Some they even falsely manage to paint supporters of Israel as moderates and all others as being anti-Semites, and many Jews still are often are deflecting attention away from Israeli injustices against the Palestinians. But many Christians even hold that Zionism is still not a God ordained event even now. But now does anyone have one, one New Testament verse that confirms Israel’s present return and possession of the Promised land. I am not aware of one, If you do which one is it? It is unbelievable, undeniable that many persons who really do not know the Bible in full can be so easily deceived, led astray by Zionism and by many others, bad pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included..
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Zionism is  “a persecution against The Church.” As Catholics rightfully do not accept that Jerusalem should be the indivisible capital of the State of Israel, but that it should be the capital of the three great monotheistic religions Christianity included.. This does not make him or anyone else who agrees with him now an out and out Jew-hater or a Virulent anti-Semite. Anti-Semite is too often a slanderous, false label made by Jews to bash those who do not agree with their acts, views. It should be evident to any Bible reader that everything the Jews do or did is, was not God sanctioned even as once being the chosen ones not even the Wars between the Jews and the Babylonians, Romans.
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Anyway the Jews have no claim to the promised land as it now all belongs solely to Jesus Christ Israel’s many too many present Human rights violations, one sided resolutions, acts, and their lack of diplomatic acts, lack of political negotiations even these days is ludicrous and they all falsely tend to be masked by: their claims of their own security interests, plus the GROSS DISTORTIONS THAT Israel over all is under attack, that Israel is acting for the good of the country, the Problems also always lie with the international Communities and not Israel, that any criticism is a threat to Israel is anti-Semitic, that any “emotional blockade”, an economic, cultural and political boycott of Israel, is a collapse of Israel’s status in the world, that any criticism of the Jews is anti-Israel, or the too often false statement that Israel really only wants PEACE and not more land, that Israel presently is not empire building NOR FORCING THEIR RELIGION ON OTHERS . Now Israel undeniably, clearly they do for SURE seem to use a HEAVY, UNDERHANDED ways TO GET their PEACE, in using their supposedly natural right to defend themselves AS MANY OF US TOO OFTEN CAN still rightfully see. The often immoral, murderous persons of Israel who kill innocent citizens included they too must understand that the ends never do justify the means they use to get there.. and that their eye for an eye approach which too often now goes to extreme is also idiotic..
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Israel as we all can know still tends to use Disproportionate force to deal with any aggressor, wrongs. Israel’s air strikes, savagery, Targeting civilians, aimed directly at civilian areas in the Middle East has been one of their most immoral, cruelest, unjustifiable acts too now. Jews falsely have only one goal in mind in regard to the Palestinians, to kick out all Palestinians out. As the world often sees it, many see it, clearly selfish, self centered Israel generally is a bully. This Bully country Israel has been often seen as the plague in the Middle East. Israel propagandists are falsely Making the Bully Israel the Victim. Israel has never done everything in its power to avoid civilian deaths in Gaza or elsewhere. When this Bully Israel is on a war, revenge rampage, nobody can stop him. The world is sick and tired of this bully Israel and it’s bad acts. Enough is enough. The self centered, despotic “Neighborhood Bully” Israel too often still cannot see it’s own faults, falsely tries to paint the picture as everyone else rather being the aggressor, abuser, bully.
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 These shameful approaches by this Bully Israel who has a clear arrogance of all others personal rights falsely cannot tolerate any dissension, anti-Israel protestors, possible loss of any domination power. Israel falsely, too often sees the world as being itself all wrong. Israel and Israel’s systematic bullying must be dealt with as one would deal with any other bully. The neighborhood bully Israel has almost already been driven out of every land it had. Israel seriously continually needs to overcome being a Bully, needs to lose most of its drunken power swagger, and Israel needs now to recover the desperately needed personal, real humanity and compassion. Serious negative repercussions need to be carried out on Israel. Or once again the Bully Israel must be taught a hard lesson and removed from it’s land as in the past. The World hostility toward Israel is largely an expression of international exasperation that continued conflict with the Palestinians rightful land claims
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” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labeled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive.
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 Many Christians, evangelicals do now support a two-state solution and creation of a new Palestinian state that includes the vast majority of the West Bank. They support justice for both Israelis and Palestinians. If all of the learned men are going to be truly historically honest, surely they must admit that the Jews have every right to inhabit the land of their fathers, the covenant land given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by none other than God himself and do next admit that right was the same God who took the right next away from them, from that land now twice too… THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT talk about the Jews return next their third return to it too. But God still wants the Jews and Palestinians brothers to live in peace together.
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Once again some Jewish persons are waiting for a promised return here but they are greatly mistaken, for this return is the promised return to Jesus Christ the messiah, and it includes the Church, composed of Jews and gentiles now. This promised restoration of the remnant of Israel, and of the gentile has been fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ ..
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(Rev 3:12 KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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(Rev 21:2 KJV) And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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(Rev 21:10 KJV) And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
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As per the next full supposed re-gathering of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus. (Acts 2:2 KJV) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
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(Acts 2:36 KJV) Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Revelation 7:15 speaks of the saints in God’s heavenly “temple” and of God “spreading his tabernacle over them.” This is a clear allusion to Ezek. 37:26-28, a passage that in its OT context is a prophecy of Israel’s restoration. There God says, “I will establish my sanctuary in the midst of them forever. And my tabernacle will be over them . . . when my sanctuary is in the midst of them forever.“ God will wipe away every tear from their eyes” (Isa. 25:8; Rev. 7:17).
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In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1). And the full promised by God restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state..
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The fact the full promised return it had all had happened on Pentecost, a feast holiday to commemorate also the freeing of the slaves is very significant too. Pentecost is derived one of the three Pilgrimage Festivals required in the Law of Moses. A Jewish holy day celebrated on the sixth of Sivan to celebrate Moses receiving the Ten Commandments and it also now commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the Apostles and other followers of Jesus as described in the Book of Acts, ”According to the Pentateuchal legislation contained in Leviticus, a Jubilee year is the year that follows immediately seven successive Sabbatic years (the Sabbatic year being the seventh year of a seven-year cycle). Accordingly, the Jubilee year takes place at the end of seven times seven years, i.e. at the end of every forty-nine years, or the fiftieth. Hence, the institution of the Jubilee-year system is but an extension or the working out of the Sabbatic-year legislation, viz. that as at the end of every six years there succeeds a Sabbatic year, so at the end of each seven Sabbatic years there succeeds a Jubilee year.
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Arguing from the analogous Pentecostal system, it is evident that the actual year in which the Jubilee occurs is not the last of the seventh Sabbatic cycle (i.e. the forty-ninth year), but the year following, namely, the fiftieth. Hence, at the end of each forty-eight years there occur two consecutive fallow years, viz. the forty-ninth, or the Sabbatic year of the seventh Sabbatic cycle and the fiftieth, or the Jubilee year.”
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In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church
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 Even in Revelation 2:17, John (quoting Jesus) promises to overcomers (i.e., the Church) a “new name” that “no one knows except the one who receives it.” This is a clear reference to the prophecy in Isa. 62:2 (“And the nations will see your righteousness, and all kings your glory; and you will be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord will designate”) and 65:15 (“but My servants will be called by another name”) about Israel’s future kingly status and restoration to Yahweh, both of which are now applied to individuals within the church.
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Hey the way i see it is that I do not expect all of the too often self centered, narcistic still lying Jewish persons not to try to still twist the truths, facts into their own favor..  but it does not mean I have to accept their lies..
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“Zionism is a Modern international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra’el, “the Land of Israel”), and continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel. Although its origins are earlier, the movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century. Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE),[4][5] Zionism can be distinguished from Territorialism, a Jewish nationalist movement calling for a Jewish homeland not necessarily in Palestine. During the early history of Zionism, a number of proposals were made for settling Jews outside of Europe, but ultimately all of these were rejected or failed. The debate over these proposals helped to define the nature and focus of the Zionist movement. Since the first century CE most Jews have lived in exile, although there has been a constant presence of Jews in the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel).
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According to Judaism, Eretz Israel, or Zion, is a land promised to the Jews by God according to the Bible. Following the 2nd century Bar Kokhba revolt, Jews were expelled from Palestine to form the Jewish diaspora. In the nineteenth century a current in Judaism supporting a return grew in popularity. Even before 1897, which is generally seen as the year in which practical Zionism started, Jews immigrated to Palestine, the pre-Zionist Aliyah.[10] Jewish immigration to Palestine started in earnest in 1882. The so-called First Aliyah saw the arrival of about 30,000 Jews over twenty years. Most immigrants came from Russia, where anti-semitism was rampant. They founded a number of agricultural settlements with financial support from Jewish philanthropists in Western Europe. The Second Aliyah started in 1904. Further Aliyahs followed between the two World Wars, fueled in the 1930s by Nazi persecution. In the 1890s Theodor Herzl infused Zionism with a new and practical urgency. He brought the World Zionist Organization into being and, together with Nathan Birnbaum, planned its First Congress at Basel in 1897.[13] This current in Zionism is known as political Zionism because it aimed at reaching a political agreement with the Power ruling Palestine. Up to 1917 this was the Ottoman Empire, and then until 1948 it was Britain on behalf of the League of Nations. The WZO also supported small scale settlement in Palestine. Lobbying by Chaim Weizmann (cultural Zionists) and others culminated in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 by the British government. This declaration endorsed the creation of a Jewish Homeland in Palestine. In 1922, the League of nations endorsed the declaration in the Mandate it gave to Britain: Palestinian Arabs resisted Zionist migration. There were riots in 1920, 1921 and 1929, sometimes accompanied by massacres of Jews. Britain supported Jewish immigration in principle, but in reaction to Arab violence imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration.
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The subsequent growth in Jewish migration led to the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine which in turn led the British to establish the Peel Commission to investigate the situation. The commission (which did not examine the situation of Jews in Europe) called for a two-state solution and compulsory transfer of populations. This solution was rejected by the British and instead the White Paper of 1939 proposed an end to Jewish immigration by 1944, with a further 75,000 to be admitted by then. In principle, the British stuck to this policy until the end of the Mandate. After WWII and the Holocaust, support for Zionism increased, especially among Jewish Holocaust survivors. The British were attacked in Palestine by Zionist groups because of their restrictions on Jewish immigration, the best known attack being the 1946 King David Hotel bombing. Unable to resolve the conflict, the British referred the issue to the newly created United Nations. In 1947, the UNSCOP recommended the partition of western Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state and a UN-controlled territory (Corpus separatum) around Jerusalem.[15] This partition plan was adopted on November 29th, 1947 with UN GA Resolution 181, 33 votes in favor, 13 against, and 10 abstentions. The vote itself, which required a two-third majority, was a very dramatic affair and led to celebrations in the streets of Jewish cities.[16] The Arab states rejected the UN decision, demanding a single state with an Arab majority. violence immediately exploded in Palestine between Jews and Arabs.
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On 14 May 1948, at the end of the British mandate, the Jewish Agency, led by Ben-Gurion declared the creation of the State of Israel and the same day, the armies of four[17] Arab countries invaded Israel. During the following eight months, Israel forces defended the Jewish partition and conquered portions of the Arab partition, enlarging its portion to 78 percent of mandatory Palestine. The conflict led to an exodus of about 711,000 Arab Palestinians [18], of whom about 46.000 were internally displaced persons in Israel. The war ended with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, which included new cease-fire lines, the so-called Green line. After the war the Arabs continued to reject Israel’s right to exist and demanded that it retreat to the 1947 partition lines. They sustained this demand until 1967 when the rest of western Palestine was conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War, after which Arab states demanded that Israel retreat to the 1949 cease fire line, the only “borders” currently recognized by the international community. These borders are commonly referred as the “pre-1967 borders” or the “green line”. The border with Egypt was legalized in the 1979 Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty, and the border with Jordan in the 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. After the creation of the State of Israel the WZO continued to exist as an organisation dedicated to assisting and encouraging Jews to migrate to Israel, as well as providing political support for Israel. In addition to Jewish Zionism, there was always a small number of Christian Zionists that existed from the early days of the Zionist movement.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

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